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22 April 2014 @ 03:05 pm
Frozen :)  

I made Ted watch Frozen last night, for the value of ‘made’ which means we checked the running time of Pacific Rim and it was too long and so he put Frozen on instead. :)

He really liked it, of course, and thought all the bad bits were bad but that overall it was terrific (and actually the bad bits are growing on me; I just watched it with Young Indiana, too), but five minutes in he was going “Holy cow, that young with that much power?” and ten minutes in he desperately wanted Elsa to join the X-Men (yes, I told him about the video “how Frozen should have ended” that addressed that), and we were like “She could totally show Bobby a thing or two,” although, he said, when Bobby gets his act together… but of course Bobby rarely gets his act together. :)

And then afterward he said he wanted a sequel, in which (spoiler behind the cut, just in case)

in which Hans comes back with a fire mage! Which I thought was a pretty good idea! “A super cute hot (hahaha) fire mage lady for Elsa to fall in love with!” I said.

“I don’t think Disney’s that progressive,” he said. :)

And then we came up with a YA fairy tale series for me to write. One that I think actually could be really splendid. :)

(x-posted from The Essential Kit)

 
 
 
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kitmizkit on April 22nd, 2014 11:28 am (UTC)
Frozen is in fact a huge leap forward in progressiveness, I think. And it too has caught a lot of flack because "Let It Go" has been widely embraced as a coming-out anthem, and there are people who therefore say that it's promoting a gay agenda.

I cannot roll my eyes hard enough, yeah. However, clearly I'm happy to run with that idea... :)
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kitmizkit on April 22nd, 2014 04:43 pm (UTC)
I saw that this afternoon. They were great! :)
Chris: Context90scartoonman on May 11th, 2014 01:03 am (UTC)
Well, there's also Mulan on ABC's Once Upon A Time.
Chrysoulachrysoula on April 22nd, 2014 11:58 am (UTC)
Kevin was so angry through a lot of Frozen because he couldn't stand how the crowned Queen of a country was treated. There's a cut scene from an earlier draft in which a slightly less vulnerable Elsa is building a snow army to retake her kingdom and THAT got Kevin really excited. It made me want to write my own AU/fairy tale-inspired book, for him.
roseaponiroseaponi on April 22nd, 2014 01:16 pm (UTC)
Idk... I've seen where people want Elsa to go to Xavier's school, but honestly she ends up happier in her story than Jean Grey ever did.
She rules, she's powerful, people cope with that better than she expected them to. :)
kitmizkit on April 22nd, 2014 04:46 pm (UTC)
An excellent point. :)
Deborah Blakedeborahblakehps on April 22nd, 2014 01:33 pm (UTC)
YA fairy tales by Catie! I vote yes!
A large duckburger_eater on April 22nd, 2014 05:20 pm (UTC)
Over on Twitter, Chris Sims was hating on this movie like mad, in part because the whole thing is an idiot plot.

The less you think about it and the more you let yourself be manipulated, the more effective it is. (I liked it, but I'm glad my son is too old to play the damn song all the time.)
silkiemom on April 22nd, 2014 05:53 pm (UTC)
How old is too old? Mine have figured out how to sing three part harmonies as well as pick out the melodies on piano/tuba/trombone. :)
Merlin Of Chaos: sad merlinmerlinofchaos on April 25th, 2014 01:54 am (UTC)
I dunno.

Parents panicking and doing stupid things because they're terrified of something and one of their children is in mortal danger is pretty realistic. While I'm happy to look at the movie and go "God, did they really do that," I live in a world where a significant chunk of people believe the world is only about 6,000 years old. Which is to say, the only thing that's wrong with (the story aspect of) the way the parents acted was that there wasn't enough explanation for why they made terrible decisions.


..and why there was no regent, of course. Or in fact anyone else of note actually in Elsa's country. That part was weird and nonsensical and I just try not to think about it.
kitmizkit on April 25th, 2014 02:58 am (UTC)
I thought the parents making terrible choices was depressingly realistic, yeah. It wasn't what I *wanted* them to do, and I was horrified by them, but I thought it was extremely normal and recognisable behaviour.

I kind of assumed there was a regent of some kind that got ellided because who wants to explain to an audience full of 6 year olds how regencies work. Also that would have made a totally different story about how the regent wanted to maintain power and so became the bad guy, which actually could have been fantastic, but wasn't what they were going for, apparently. :)
anthony_lionanthony_lion on April 23rd, 2014 01:05 pm (UTC)
I have 'Pacific Rim' on DVD, and...

You made the right choice...

Pacific Rim is a big, rusty metal turkey.
Not only are the mechas more unrealistic than a honest politician, but it's so full of cliches that you wouldn't believe it.
The tech-speak is horrendous, and yeah, the ending couldn't be more obvious. (you know who will survive when it's time for the final battle... )
Trent the Uncatchableknappenp on April 24th, 2014 12:09 pm (UTC)
I just saw a thing that popped up on facebook, (http://screencrush.com/frozen-2-disney/) informing me that the Imagineers behind Frozen are working on making it a broadway musical and that Frozen 2 will wait until that's up and running. (Also that Pirates 5 is off the books for now 'cause they can't put a script together.) Just FYI.

Edited at 2014-04-24 04:14 pm (UTC)