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26 February 2014 @ 10:41 pm
GGK Book Club: The Wandering Fire, ch 13-16  

(Chapters 1-4 of THE DARKEST ROAD for next week!)

“The crying books” indeed. I don’t remember crying my way through THE WANDERING FIRE before, but I spent the final quarter of the book totally in bits. I’m somewhat concerned about reading THE DARKEST ROAD, particularly the part that *always* reduced me to wracking sobs. I’m going to need a pint of Haagen Daaz, a box of tissues and six hours alone in a soundproof room, apparently.

I’m already late posting this, so I’m gonna make a couple quick comments and then try to be more coherent in the comments.

Oh. Heh. First thing in chapter 13 is the reference to Rachel’s Song, so I probably got the symbolism there after all. Heh. :)

Paul and Jaelle. It’s all there on the page, I just never had the eyes to see it when I was younger.

Diarmuid’s proposal to Sharra is magnificent. Also, just in general, I really do love that formal proposal: the sun rises in your eyes. That’s honestly just beautiful. ♥

I had completely. freaking. forgotten. how Gereint, the shaman, links Paul to the land so he can call the god so he can command the sea god who slays the serpent. I was reading along, Gereint’s got the stuff about his mistake in never having seen the sea, then he’s going deep, and there I am, totally oblivious right up until wham he’s there for Paul and, well, there I am, sobbing again. God almighty.

I swear, in some aspects it’s like I hadn’t read this at all. I’d forgotten Matt’s death, and read the scene leading up to it with my knuckles against my mouth as if I could somehow stave it off. And then I had no idea that Lancelot brought him back, although this time–as I think never before–I had the awareness of the legends to tell me what it meant when it’s commented that Lancelot has ‘done this before’.

And I completely fell apart when Loren pledges *himself* to Matt, after a lifetime of Matt serving Loren. That was pretty well perfect.

The reason, I think, that I love the Arthurian story in these books so much is because I find the triangle to be convincingly presented as equally deep and emotional on all three sides, without hatred. Maybe it’s because that at this point in their story, as GGK is writing it, they all know how it goes, and they’ve all gone past the anger and are resigned to the tragedy, but it’s just–I love it. I love *them*, and how kind they are to each other in their story. Saddest story of all the long tales told.

(x-posted from The Essential Kit)

Alix (Tersa): Arwen Reading (tersa)tersa on February 26th, 2014 10:06 pm (UTC)
GDI, why can't these books be out in Kindle format? *grump*

I totally don't remember anything about what you summarized lol. Except the triangle, because there's a moment related to it in The Darkest Road that has stuck with me since the first time I read it.

Edited at 2014-02-26 10:07 pm (UTC)
kitmizkit on February 27th, 2014 10:28 am (UTC)
I presume the moment of which you speak is the one that reduces me to wracking sobs (it involves somebody dying, shockingly enough), although it could be my other favourite moment with the 3 of them... :)
Dreamshadowmorgie on February 27th, 2014 12:48 pm (UTC)
Always the sobbing. /Always/.
Dreamshadowmorgie on February 27th, 2014 12:39 am (UTC)
I need to go legend diving. The whole 'He's done it before' always makes me puzzled, because I don't recall that - but again, haven't gone legend diving yet!
kitmizkit on February 27th, 2014 10:27 am (UTC)
Lancelot, because of his Goodness and Trueness, healed...Gawain, or Galahad, or Sir Urry, or somebody, from either death or grevious injury, sort of depending on what version of the story you read. The first time somebody wrote that into the story, as far as I know, was in L'Morte d'Arthur. I think they might have even used that in Camelot!, in fact. :)
Dreamshadowmorgie on February 27th, 2014 12:47 pm (UTC)

And I'm enjoying the review. Not rereading with you just because I've reread the books /so/ many times, but it's fun to see through someone else's eyes.

Y'know he sorta-did a sequel to the triology, right? ;) Which I need to read.
Mary Annepers1stence on March 26th, 2014 06:19 pm (UTC)
which books are you thinking of as a sort-of sequel to the Fionavar trilogy?
kitmizkit on March 26th, 2014 07:00 pm (UTC)
YSABEL, which has a bit that ties them together. :)

ghglhghg at any minute 'll post for the darkest road *dies*
Mary Annepers1stence on March 26th, 2014 07:08 pm (UTC)
ah -- I've read Ysabel, but it's been a while....

maybe monthly is a better bet for the re-read project for you or maybe postpone a year or two? you're writing and that's way more important than this...

kitmizkit on March 26th, 2014 07:27 pm (UTC)
Well, clearly the weekly post thing is not working for me, yeah, so I'm going to have to change something. I mean, ideally I'd read the book all at once, keep notes, write the appropriate number of blog posts, and set them up to post at the appropriate time, but that's obviously not working. :/ I might, yeah, just have to go to monthly. Oh well. It was a nice thought.
Dreamshadowmorgie on March 26th, 2014 07:44 pm (UTC)
Ysabel, if memory serves!
Herefoxherefox on February 27th, 2014 07:55 pm (UTC)
I didn't comment last time because I got behind but I caught up over the weekend so I'd be ready to comment this time.

The fate of the Lios Alfar who went over the sea is always utterly heart breaking for me. They thought they were going to their version of heaven and then were just eaten on their way there and utterly destroyed. It's one of the moments that stuck with me forever about these books.

I actually was remarkably confused during the fight where Matt died because I KNEW he goes back to the crystal lake with Kim but I didn't remember how and then he dies and I started doubting my sanity till Lancelot brings him back.

I think I said it before but this is the only Arthurian retelling where I respect all the members of the triangle (Though with not being a king any more with Mordred following them when they all obviously love each other...as an adult I wonder why they just haven't made a happy threesome of it *grin*)

It had been a long time since I had read any GGK so I'd forgotten how good he is at heart wrenching, poignant sadness. It's lovely but definitely more noticeable when reading it in slow chunks.