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17 February 2014 @ 03:50 pm
Patreon update :)  

So I logged into the war room after launching the MAGIC & MANNERS Patreon project and got hit with a bunch of suggestions on how to improve the page, which I’ll be doing, but one of them was “more explaining about how the funding works”, so I’ll do that in a blog post.

So. Funding with Patreon is Not Like Kickstarter. Patreon does not ask for one large donation; it asks for many small ones. And when we say small we can mean “ten or five or even one cent”–micropayments are totally cool with the Patreon model.

Patreon allows you to cap your monthly donation. If it’s a year-long project with 50 chapters (as I anticipate MAGIC & MANNERS being), if you want to cap your monthly payment at $1, so that over the course of the year you pay $12 for the eventual e-book, that’s totally cool.

I’m setting a cap of my own on the number of chapters I’m willing to post: no more than 1 a week. So, for example, if you have opted to donate $1/chapter, over the course of the month the most you can possibly get hit for is $5 (in July & October, I think, which are the months this year with 5 Wednesdays, which is the day I expect to post). But if you’ve set your own cap of $3/month, that’ll be your total donation regardless of the caps on my end of things.

I want to emphasise again that this isn’t like Kickstarter: if you tell Patreon you want to donate $10/chapter, it’s not a one-time donation of $10, it’s $10 every week! And, I mean, don’t get me wrong, if you want to and can afford that, that’s great, but as the project creator, I’m not expecting people to be able to donate at that level! My goal/hope is really to basically get 250 people at $1 each–or, of course, ideally more than that so that editing and whatnot can be part of the whole project process. :)

Basically I’m going to give the Patreon project a month to fund. If we haven’t reached the base level of $250/chapter by the middle of March, I’ll call it a failed experiment and close it down. If we do, of course, then there will be new chapters every week, which would be lots of fun. :)

Questions? Hit me with ‘em!

(x-posted from The Essential Kit)

M. C. A. Hogarth: presenthaikujaguar on February 18th, 2014 01:07 am (UTC)
*nods* I think "creator-focused" is a good model, I just feel like Patreon doesn't make it easy to grok, partially because of its emphasis on prizes/products/etc. I don't blame it for wanting to instate something like that, but the metaphors get mixed in my head.

For me, if I want a book or a novel, I buy the book or collection.

If I want to support the artist just doing things, I tip them without expectation of reward.

Kickstarter fits neatly into the first box: I want the book or collection, I give money, I get the story(ies). Donation buttons fit well into the second box (I also call this the "museum model" of patronage, in which you pay someone for the experience they provide you, but not for a thing--so, say, someone's blog post made me happy, I tip them, but I don't want them to send me a copy). Patreon seems to try to sit in both boxes, and that confuses me.

If I was the only person it was confusing, I'd wave it off. But a lot of other people seem puzzled by it too, so. :)

As a producer, I am not comfortable being beholden to a hybrid semi-continuous patronage system that doesn't guarantee me the money to finish a project (while encouraging me to finish occasional parts of it) while also requiring me to give answer to people who are (justifiably) anxious that I produce something. Kickstarter says "finish this project, or don't even start it." Patreon says... something else. I'm not sure what, which is why I haven't tried it yet (also, admittedly, because my existing patronage system works).
Chrysoulachrysoula on February 18th, 2014 01:32 am (UTC)
Interestingly, I think the 'donation' model is hard to grok if you're outside the crowdfunding community. At least, I've never had a single tip in my tip jar. (That could, of course, be me....)

I don't know. My first exposure to Patreon was the Nataly Dawn page. She has no basic tiers; she simply gets whatever amount is in the 'per song' field for each song she releases. She does have more advanced tiers: she will get an electric guitar at $2k and cinematographer at $2.75k. It made perfect sense to me: she was inviting people to be her patrons and in return they got early or exclusive access to her stuff. It looks like the SMBC page is the same way. Sort of a tip jar but more organized with the ability to demonstrate to the interested just how many other people think you're worth tipping.