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25 April 2013 @ 09:42 am
fed up.  

I am fed up with social media. Yes, I know, a blog is social media, but let us refer to it as old school, or static, social media: it does not roll over completely every few seconds-to-minutes, nor is it expected to.

I love the ease of interaction and accessibility to my readers that Facebook offers. Facebook, however, seems to be deliberately and actively trying to make the public pages unusable for the person running it–ie, me.

At the moment, between the enormous size of the cover photo (which, once set, cannot be unset) and the pay-for-promotion, new messages, new likes, insights, tips and whatever other crap they’re front-loading, I cannot see any of the page content until I have scrolled down an entire screen length. And that’s with my screen maximized. Yes, I can collapse the admin stuff (but not the cover image), but I have to do it every time I come back to the page, and I don’t stay on the page all the time. Nor am I going to.

I’m also never going to pay to promote any of my posts, which means every inch of the page is wasted space. But just to complicate things further, they’ve done something bizarre to the comments system there, and it no longer goes oldest-to-newest, but apparently “newest to oldest unless something has a direct reply in which case it gets bumped to the top but it all has a time lag so they seem to jump around and it’s very difficult to tell what’s been posted most recently or not.”

G+ makes slightly more sense, except it also has a system where once a cover photo is set you can’t unset it, which just pisses me off. And furthermore, if you upload an image the same size as their default cover image, it tells you that image is too small. WTF. And although one can nominally set sliders to determine how much of what Circle one wants in one’s feed, after half an hour or more of searching I couldn’t *actually* figure out how to do that. I have a suspicion you need to be using Chrome or something. :p (Ah. Someone just told me they got rid of the slider and how to arrange that now. *sigh*)

I’m also still not certain people are actually using G+, and what I would prefer to use it for is an automatic cross-post from this blog…which isn’t, as far as I can tell, possible. Which is why *I* don’t use G+, and which realistically may be why I never get in the habit of it.

To my surprise, Twitter is turning out to be the least irritating–but also the least threaded-conversation-based, of course–of the social media I use.

Honestly, I’m fed up. I’ve had readers tell me they won’t follow me off Facebook/etc to this blog, and I get that. Facebook is very convenient for people wanting to access me. It is no longer, however, at all convenient for *me*, and I’m just about done with it all.

(x-posted from The Essential Kit)

LaZyTealazytea on April 25th, 2013 11:26 am (UTC)
changing cover photo - facebook
If you cover your cursor over the cover image on facebook you should see the "change cover" option appear. Most I know change their cover photo every few days; though, it is large and the size unchangeable.

I look at my feed more than my own wall or the group pages and business pages I maintain. I receive an email notification from FB for any activity on those pages to make sure I don't miss anything. In fact, I rarely go to my wall.

I do wish Google+ was more active. Sadly, most posts there quickly wither on the vine and even I forget to go there. I usually monitor all of it through Flipboard (3rd party app) which minimizes the intrusion of ads and distracting threads.

Edited at 2013-04-25 11:27 am (UTC)
kitmizkit on April 25th, 2013 12:54 pm (UTC)
Re: changing cover photo - facebook
It's not that I can't change it, it's that I can't change the *size*, which I hate.
Re: changing cover photo - facebook - flit on April 25th, 2013 06:39 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: changing cover photo - facebook - mizkit on April 25th, 2013 09:17 pm (UTC) (Expand)
hegemony hedgehogagrimony on April 25th, 2013 11:29 am (UTC)
Is there something on the Facebook page I can be more active in helping you out with?
kitmizkit on April 25th, 2013 12:46 pm (UTC)
If I could think of something, I'd let you know! I mean, short of you convincing the entire FB production team that they're Doin' It Rong, I donno what you can do, though... :)
Deborah Blakedeborahblakehps on April 25th, 2013 12:39 pm (UTC)
I'm SO with you. It seems like every time I finally figure out how to use a new FB thing, they change it all. And never for the better. The comment changes are insane, the wall is useless and confusing, and I too just stick mostly to my feed. I've learned to check my message folder to see if anyone has sent my something important that I actually need to respond to, and I have my notifications set so that I am told anytime anyone tags me (puts my name) in a comment. But I have resigned myself to the fact that I am never going to be able to keep up with either FB or Twitter, and am purposely spending less time on both. I gave up on G+ a long time ago. Hardly anyone I communicate with regularly is there, and most of the folks who added me were complete strangers who didn't even write, or apparently, read my books. WTF?

-peartreealley on April 25th, 2013 12:42 pm (UTC)
This may not be what you're looking for, but there's social media cross posting apps/software/etc. so maybe you can focus on Twitter and let it cross post to Facebook? Then you only have to go to FB when you need a direct interaction (which can be sent in email notifications).
kitmizkit on April 25th, 2013 12:49 pm (UTC)
I find that at this point I'm unwilling to employ Another Piece Of Software to deal with these issues, you know?

I was just thinking of you less than an hour ago! How *are* you?
(no subject) - peartreealley on April 25th, 2013 01:26 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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Mary Anne: pixelpers1stence on April 25th, 2013 01:49 pm (UTC)
I have a G+ page, but I only go check the feed every couple days; mostly because virtually no one is doing anything over there. I've never really used my FB wall, just the newsfeed so a lot of their changes make no difference to me. And Twitter -- a foreign world to me.

For me, with G+, I could never figure out how to make it a straight chronological order when reading, which frustrates me.

I can see why FB is frustrating for people though, and the "pay to promote" is an annoying and intrusive way to try to monetize things. And it penalizes not just the content-creators but also those who want to view that content -- I would rather see everything that everyone posts and then throttle it back myself so I see more "IFLS" and less "NPR" or whatever....
Mary Anne: pixelpers1stence on April 25th, 2013 10:11 pm (UTC)
also, G+ seems to suck at "recommending" friends, despite the fact that I have a very large contacts list, all kept in my Gmail address book, although that's partly because lots of people don't have profiles.
(no subject) - pers1stence on April 29th, 2013 07:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
saare_snowqueensaare_snowqueen on April 25th, 2013 02:33 pm (UTC)
Not on FartBook, have no intention of ever being on FartBook. I find you perfectly well here on LJ and also Twitter which I adore for its simplicity of use.
anthony_lionanthony_lion on April 26th, 2013 11:09 am (UTC)
I prefer to call it FarceBook, but otherwise have the same sentiment.
(no subject) - saare_snowqueen on April 26th, 2013 11:32 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - anthony_lion on April 26th, 2013 11:45 am (UTC) (Expand)
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Kari Sperringla_marquise_de_ on April 25th, 2013 02:58 pm (UTC)
I tend to use facebook to talk to British friends who aren't in fandom, and some who aren't on lj, and not much else. It's very annoying to use.
Lola: Meidancewithlife on April 25th, 2013 03:25 pm (UTC)
I'm waiting for a smart geek to design an alternative to FB that we can all join--it does get worse and worse. I've spent hours trying to configure it and I *know* I'm not seeing all the posts from the people I want to follow.

Have you looked at Social Fixer dot com, a plugin that gives you a lot more options to configure FB? I don't know how it works from the page owner point of view, but as a reader of pages it changes it back to one column format, and gets rid of a lot of FB's annoying on screen stuff (but not, alas, the large picture size). I get that you don't want to try anything new--I'm almost there as well. But I follow you on LJ and on your website and won't stop :-).

I am, however, going to have to finally get an RSS reader soon...

Edited at 2013-04-25 03:39 pm (UTC)
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kitmizkit on April 25th, 2013 03:54 pm (UTC)
LJ is still by far my favorite social media site, but I fear it's had its day. Sad.
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Herefoxherefox on April 25th, 2013 04:10 pm (UTC)
If it makes you feel any better, I can't abide facebook and now that I can play words with friends from my phone I never go back there (I used to get pouted at when I wouldn't play with people)

I wish people would come back to lj, I miss some very good friends that jumped ship to the newer, shinier thing, but I can't be bothered to try to FIND their stuff on facebook when it's so horrible.
simplisticwords: pic#116183660simplisticwords on April 25th, 2013 05:49 pm (UTC)
I got out of Facebook almost a year ago now.

If I could remember to bookmark your blog on my phone, I'd use your blog more (loving the cross-posting on here though). Twitter is also handy, for me at least.
Randomnessr_ness on April 25th, 2013 06:13 pm (UTC)
But just to complicate things further, they’ve done something bizarre to the comments system there, and it no longer goes oldest-to-newest, but apparently “newest to oldest unless something has a direct reply in which case it gets bumped to the top but it all has a time lag so they seem to jump around and it’s very difficult to tell what’s been posted most recently or not.”

I find this Facebook characteristic really annoying, too. You can't even tell if you've entirely missed a post someone has made.

LJ is pretty transparent in this regard, and I like that.
Flitterbyflit on April 25th, 2013 06:42 pm (UTC)
Facebook's random ordering drives me up a TREE.

Which reminds me, I haven't quit there yet. Meh.
Flitterbyflit on April 25th, 2013 06:37 pm (UTC)
I drop-dead loathe how spammy twitter, Facebook, and G+ get. G+ is actually the most manageable of the three because of volume tuning, but I still don't get to filter by topic... which is the sensible way to do it. All of them end up being completely ephemeral even if I'm careful how I tune my feed, because whenever anything exciting is happening everyone wants to talk about that, so the volume ramps up above what I can bear. But if I tune it so I can bear the volume on a fast news day, then my feed is boring on a slow news day.

Let's say I follow a cooking site, but only want to see the recipes tagged gluten-free or vegetarian. WHY NOT LET ME DO THAT? Garrrgh.

And Facebook is actively hostile to its users. Google and Twitter are less so, but still are actively hostile to any concept of filtering or other useful methods of noise reduction.
Flitterbyflit on April 25th, 2013 06:38 pm (UTC)
To be honest, LJ, with its encouragement of relatively long-form posts AND its thoughtful nested comments AND its excellent moderation, is what I keep coming back to. What would make it perfect is if it had more dynamic cut-tags and commenting, that didn't require click-and-wait, but all happened by expanding the text on the same page.
(no subject) - r_ness on April 25th, 2013 07:27 pm (UTC) (Expand)
HL Henriksonveilofgrace on April 25th, 2013 09:46 pm (UTC)
I was just talking to the hubby about this yesterday. In my opinion, Facebook is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet. Most of the people I know who use it do so only to keep in touch with people they wouldn't otherwise have access to, which makes all the changes and feeds and promos and pretty much all of it pointless. It was originally designed for college kids, and then exploded across age groups and interest levels. The problem (one of them, anyway) is it still acts like it's only for college kids, with their constantly-shifting interests and attention, as well as their intuitive and near-automatic adaptation to new technology/change in general.

I think a vast majority of users are waiting for the next big thing, and as soon as someone creates a user-friendly, highly interactive, simplicity-based option, Facebook will look a lot like MySpace. If I had *any* idea how to create such a thing, I totally would.

I'm still trying to figure out Twitter and how to make it less overwhelming...
grassrosegrassrose on April 25th, 2013 10:57 pm (UTC)
I second the suggestion that you check out the SocialFixer plugin. It has made Facebook bearable for me again. You set up how you want to view Facebook. You can suppress things or rearrange them. It's a browser plugin that works in just about every desktop browser except IE.