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18 January 2013 @ 03:52 pm
cameras, mark ii  
So I called ahead to the shop and they said yes, the D5200 would be in at about 11, as that was their regular delivery time. I went over about half eleven and of course because she'd promised, the shipment hadn't come in.

So I had a look at a D600 just to get a feel for the size, which she said was similar to a D7K. And then I stood around chatting with her, camera in hand, until I concluded that no, it really was too heavy for me to use comfortably. "All right," she said, and got out the D5100.

Now, the primary thing keeping me from going for the 5100 in the first place was that it lacks the panoramic stitching. However, roughly 245907 of you said "pshaw, use software for that," which meant by the time I got to the shop my attachment to the panoramic aspect of the 5200 was weakened. And the D5100 *does* have an in-camera automatic focus motor, which for some bizarre reason the 5200 lacks, and that was a distinct count against the 5200. And like the 5200, the 5100 fit my hands nicely, weighing less than my D50 does.

So she managed to downsell me by €305, which, well, lads, upselling: ur doin it rong. OTOH, customer for life. :)

Actually, possibly also a friend, because we're of roughly the same age (I said something about my 20 year old film Nikon and she said, "You're dating yourself, but you can't be older than I am. You're what, 34?" "39," I said, and she said, "I want your skin care regime." *laughs*), both like photography, both have 2.5 year old sons, and had a lovely time chatting, so hey. She gave me her email address. Yay! Friends! :)

Anyway, the shop was *so* much more what I like out of--well, almost any kind of shop, than what the other place I've been to is. It's small and crowded and family run and peopled with friends who hang around drinking tea and giving out to the customers. A slight older gentleman and another man of equal age but well-bearded were doing just that, and as herself and I were talking, the slight one said to me, "Do you think you two could keep it down? We're trying to have a conversation here."

"We could," I said thoughtfully, "but we're not going to." This caused huge laughter and nigh-unto applause from the shop owners and bearded bloke, and herself said to him, "She's got your number!"

"I live in hope," he said, and pressed his hand over his heart. *laughs*

So yes. Customer for life even if they hadn't downsold me, and ALSO they said a diagnostic on the D50 really shouldn't cost all that much--no more than a hundred--that the error was common, and that they'd give me the details for the man to call about it, because it was certainly worth discovering whether it would be easily fixable. This versus the "It'll cost you 125 quid just to have it diagnosed and probably twice that again to have it fixed," from the other shop. Fuck 'em, sez I, and feed 'em fishheads.

Oh! And when I went in I noticed the rows of B&W film on the wall and said, "Wow, T-MAX, I haven't seen that in a *long* time," and she said they sold loads of it, and then when it transpired that I still had my film Nikon and we'd spent a fair bit of time talking about the beauty of B&W photography, particularly in the grain which just cannot be matched by Photoshop effects, she handed me a roll of--well, she gave me Tri-X, because it's better film (unless, in fact, you're *really* going for grain, which I always found T-MAX to be great for)--but anyway, the point is, she gave me a roll of B&W film and challenged me to shoot it within the month.

Now, a roll of film is peanuts compared to what I was spending on a camera, but I still thought that was really *awesome*. And now I have to dig out my old Nikon and shoot a roll of B&W film with it. *beams*

So if you're in need of a camera in Dublin, let me highly recommend the John Gunn Camera Shop, where they're utterly splendid. :)
Current Mood: happyhappy
GM Ceosanna: cameraceosanna on January 18th, 2013 06:34 pm (UTC)
It sounds like a fabulous place!
kitmizkit on January 18th, 2013 08:51 pm (UTC)
It was absolutely wonderful. :)
anthony_lionanthony_lion on January 18th, 2013 06:37 pm (UTC)
Welcome back to the fun part of photography(B/W film)

How long until you start processing film in the bathroom or kitchen?
(Most of my B/W processing kit has been bought the last 5 years. Enlargers, tanks and all kinds of nice equipment can be picked up for next to nothing these days)

Edited at 2013-01-18 06:40 pm (UTC)
kitmizkit on January 18th, 2013 08:54 pm (UTC)
Several years after I think my son is old enough to not drink the developer. Perhaps 2025... :)
anthony_lionanthony_lion on January 18th, 2013 10:30 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I guess that would be a consideration...

Not only don't I have that particular problem, but I only mix up enough for use there and then, then dump the chemicals afterwards. And the bottles of concentrate I can easily keep locked up.

But Seriously, anyone thinking of ever setting up a darkroom should get the equipment now. In a few years the stuff will start getting expensive. At least the good stuff such as enlargers capable of taking 60x60mm negatives (120 film) and the 75mm lens you need for it.
An enlarger isn't strictly speaking absolutely necessary. Not for 'normal work' at least. Negative scanners these days are getting pretty good. And parallax errors can pretty much be fixed in 'shop these days I think.
(But my enlarger can easily do a 50 x 70 cm print. Just need trays large enough. )
And with 'liquid emulsion', I can enlarge the picture onto just about anything...
(Got a stack of blank wood jigsaw puzzles somewhere... )

Slightly cheaper is the developer tanks and possibly a timer for the enlarger.
(A timer with .1second resolution is money well spent.)
I recommend a tank that can take 3 or 4 135rolls at the same time.
(Bigger tanks require LOTS of chemicals, so aren't really of use to most amateurs.)
And LOTS of spare spools for it. The spools needs to dry out between each roll of film or they'll be fiddly to thread. And you can ruin the undeveloped film.
(I can fit 3 x 135 rolls or 2 x 120 in one of my tanks, and 2 x 135 or a single 120 in the other. One's a Paterson System 4, the other is Paterson SuperSystem 4, and with about a dozen spools... The SS4 and most of the spools were bought new on the net.)
For used tanks the rule is to never buy one that has been stored with the soft plastic cap on, or lid tight(models with soft plastic gasket) as the soft plastic will deform over time.

Measuring tube and thermometers can be bought cheaply anywhere they sell equipment for home brewing. A disposable syringe(doesn't really need a needle) is good for measuring some chemicals where there's 1 part concentrate to 50 parts water.
Trays can be made by cutting up plastic storage boxes.

An actual darkroom can often be the cheapest part...
(I tape black plastic over the bathroom window and door. But for developing, I just use a 'darkroom bag', a big bag made of black cloth, with one opening to insert tank and film, and two for your arms. )

Anyway, kids tends to be fascinated watching the picture slowly appear on the paper.
helsinkibabyhelsinkibaby on January 18th, 2013 06:59 pm (UTC)
Where abouts is it, for future reference? Because I feel like I know it but can't place it!
kitmizkit on January 18th, 2013 08:52 pm (UTC)
Oh! It's 16 Wicklow Street, about halfwayish to Camden Court Hotel from Dame Street.
helsinkibabyhelsinkibaby on January 19th, 2013 10:46 am (UTC)
Ok, have it in my head! Have probably walked past it a million times but my camera shop of choice around those parts was always the Dublin Camera Exchange. (Moment's silence)
Deborah Blakedeborahblakehps on January 18th, 2013 08:20 pm (UTC)
Wow! I love a good shop and a happy customer service story. And a new friend, yay! (I'll show you a nice camera if you'll be my friend. Really. And make you tea and all.)

Have fun with your new toy!
omegaromegar on January 18th, 2013 08:24 pm (UTC)
Where are they?

I am considering an upgrade from bridge to full DSLR...... Probably next year, but still.
kitmizkit on January 18th, 2013 08:52 pm (UTC)
16 Wicklow Street, about halfwayish to Camden Court Hotel from Dame Street.
Geek of Weird Shit: statlerwaldorfgows on January 18th, 2013 08:50 pm (UTC)
Oh man, what a *fantastic* experience! :D
kitmizkit on January 18th, 2013 08:53 pm (UTC)
It was perfectly fantastic. I told them I thought their competitors on Grafton Street were gobshites (not in quite so many words) and yer man shook my hand and practically clutched me to his bosom. :)
Geek of Weird Shit: statlerwaldorfgows on January 20th, 2013 09:40 pm (UTC)
Hee! :D
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on January 18th, 2013 11:58 pm (UTC)
And the D5100 *does* have an in-camera automatic focus motor, which for some bizarre reason the 5200 lacks

Actually, this is where (unless I'm fabulously wrong) I think you're mistaken. It uses the in-lens motors on the AF-S lenses, but can't auto-focus with an AF lens. In the former case, there's a switch on the lens that switches between Auto and Manual focusing mode - in the latter that switch is missing. And there's no M/A switch on the camera itself, unlike on my D70 and (I assume) your D50.

This is true for the D5100 and the D5200.

I assume that since most Nikkor lenses sold (at least to enthusiasts rather than pros) are AF-S, the idea of having a motor in the camera body and in the lens seemed a little of a luxury. So the D5000 range (and the D3000 range it seems) don't have the extra cost, weight or complexity of the in-body motor.

(I have but one AF lens, which is a cheap 70-300 telephoto, and I never got very good autofocus out of that on my D70 anyway. So losing autofocus on that lens is not a problem for me.)
kitmizkit on January 19th, 2013 06:22 am (UTC)
Yeah, I was wrong, which is mildly irritating, because my hands aren't quite strong enough to keep the weight of a telephoto lens steady while I manually focus it.