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05 December 2012 @ 01:08 pm
attempted seduction  
The new Sony Vaio laptop/tablet hybrid wants to seduce me.

I need excellent battery life & a highly responsive keyboard. Ted's tablet, an Asus EEE or something that is now about 2 years old, is wonky with the keyboard--there's some kind of sensitivity problem between the touch screen and keyboard which causes the cursor to jump around even if you're not using the touchscreen at all. I had terrible, terrible tablet envy until I tried writing on it.

Is the Sony the machine I want? At €1300, it has to be *perfect*.
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on December 5th, 2012 01:58 pm (UTC)
Nice looking, but that battery life? Eek!
kitmizkit on December 5th, 2012 02:00 pm (UTC)
Yeah, they claimed 5 hours at the store, but...
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on December 5th, 2012 02:07 pm (UTC)
The CNET review basically said you need the add-on battery if you want a decent life.

Do you need touchscreen? If not, I'd be tempted to try out a Google Chromebook. I'm sure someone in Dublin must have one you could test.
kitmizkit on December 5th, 2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
I don't need a touchscreen per se. I don't *need* a new netbook, except for loathing the one I have. But I have *wants*, you see. And if I /had/ a tablet-touchscreen I might catch up on the comics I have backlogged...
Jeff Linderjslinder on December 5th, 2012 03:08 pm (UTC)
Does it have to be Windows based and netbook size? You can find an older version Mac Air at some nice pricing since the new one is out.
kitmizkit on December 5th, 2012 03:10 pm (UTC)
It does in fact have to be netbook sized. :)
Dan/Дмитрий: The Sign at the End of the Universeicedrake on December 5th, 2012 09:57 pm (UTC)
I can get about 6 hours of high-intensity use (think films and CPU-intensive games) out of my tablet. Word processing? I've done ten-hour trips through airports and arrived with the batteries half-full. I say batteries because this is the Asus Eeeeee (eee) Pad Infinity (AKA TF700) and dock combination, so there's the battery in the dock as well.

I seriously can't say enough good things about the device. It's a replacement for my presumed-stolen TF101, the original Eeeeeeeeeeeeee (eeeeee) Pad Transformer, which I had for a year and loved, despite the ever so annoying touchpad issue. Speaking of the touchpad issue! The newer docks include a button that turns off the touchpad. I'd have liked the option to simply disable touch-to-click on the touchpad, but I find that I don't miss it all that much, and rarely turn it on. For most things the accuracy of my fingertip on the capacitive screen is plenty good enough.

The TF700 is thinner than the newest iPad, to give you another point of reference. It's also perfectly compatible with the TF201 dock, which is now somewhat cheaper due to being older and not as SHINY. So my suggestion: buy them separately and save yourself around 50 quid.

The IPS+ display functionality means it can be used in bright midday sunlight (not that you'll have that issue too often, being in Ireland and all :), and the minimum brightness setting isn't too bright to use to read to the bebbeh at night.

Oh yeah, and it's a 92% sized keyboard. I don't have any difficulties touch-typing.

All that said, I will never stop mocking the name of the line. Eeeeeeeeeeeeee (eeeeeeee!)

Edited at 2012-12-05 09:59 pm (UTC)
anthony_lionanthony_lion on December 5th, 2012 10:51 pm (UTC)
Have you considered the HP EliteBook series?

They're not a 'consumer product', though, so you don't see them advertised that often...
(And it may be a problem finding a place that have them on display so that you can get a feel for the keyboard)

My old (5 or 6 years at least) EliteBook 2400 still have 5Hours of 'light' use(surfing the web with WiFi) and a decent keyboard.
The 2530/2540 models are let down by the use of a very slow 1.8" SATA HDD, but I believe that newer models have Flash disks. (The 2530 is also let down by a crappy fan. Thankfully, it comes with a 3year warranty... Local techies will not go out of business as long as we have these machines) We are looking into getting SSDs for the 2540 machines in our organisation as we hope to keep them running for at least 2 or 3 years more.

They all come in basically the same size (12 - 13" LCD, $:3 on the 2400, Wide on the 2510 and newer), the weight is about 1.2Kg(about the same as most modern netBooks), but has a decent CPU, easy-to-upgrade RAM, CD/DVD-burner built-in and very long battery life. There's even a FireWire connector on them...
You have both a touchpad and a little rubber 'stick' poking up out of the keyboard for navigation, and there's a fingerprint sensor for anyone wanting to waste their time.

I like the keyboard on the old 2400 better than the one on the 2540 I have now, but this is of course individual taste.

I don't know how good the 2560 or the 27xx series are as department policy is to buy DELL crap these days.
(Their 'smallest' are the size of a 15" model, and then they can't even fit a DVD-reader)
x_mass on December 18th, 2012 12:03 am (UTC)
have you tried something like an X61 tablet

it's not the newest of tablets and the the flexview (high resolution IPS) version is fairly rare however it will happily run windows 7 it can be a tablet or a laptop

i obviously love them because I am writing on one


PS i came here because of your comments on charlie's blog
kitmizkit on December 18th, 2012 07:54 am (UTC)
I have not! I'll check it out, thank you!
x_mass on December 18th, 2012 10:23 am (UTC)
had a quick look on ebay Uk for a X61 Tablet

and found one for for £187 (inc delivery)


the key thing your looking for is SXGA+ 12.1" 1400x1050 LCD

- Core 2 Duo L7500 1.60 GHz processor
- Intel X3100 graphics
- 12.1" 1400x1050 LCD with pen input

the display is IPS - so like all good tablets

review of X61T tablet

personally I am running Linux on my box, however linux pen input character recognition is nowhere near as good as on windows
if your interested in running linux

forgot to say one more thing, you can buy newer X series tablets but its much harder to find one with a IPS display. People do create them, but they do tend to be expensive

he above price is very very good - I am tempted to buy it myself - but its Christmas and I'm feeling poor

Edited at 2012-12-18 10:44 am (UTC)