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23 August 2011 @ 12:26 pm

…or maybe I should just leave retelling fairy tales to Ursula, and go fling myself in a pit instead.

(When I had read only the first half of the entry, I had been going to make an appendix to *this* entry saying “It’s utterly beside the point that I want to tell grown-up versions of fairy tales, dark and creepy if I can manage it, and Ursula is going for delightful and charming and for children, and it is also utterly beside the point that I can write charming childrens’ stories with the best of them” but then I finished reading the entry and no, no, Ursula is doing her usual thing of making something delightful and charming ALSO dark and creepy and fuck, I just can’t do that, so I’ll be over here in this pit, thank you.)

(On the sort of positive side, reading Ursula’s story made it occur to me that the way to deal with stories themed in such a way as they could go under more than one title, such as Snow White would belong in both SNOW and GLASS, or Snow White & Rose Red could belong in both SNOW and BEAST, was to in fact write two entirely different four-collection sets, one for adults and one for children. SNOW, BIRD, WICKED, SONG for children. Or something. I don’t know. Sort of positive, because this, in case you were wondering, is how I end up with fifteen zillion projects going on at once. :p)

(i’ll be in the pit. with a pony.)

(x-posted from The Essential Kit)

Current Mood: intimidatedintimidated
T. Rev: hatediest_rev on August 23rd, 2011 11:35 am (UTC)
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on August 23rd, 2011 11:39 am (UTC)
Ursula is just terribly, terribly talented in a seemingly effortless way. I'm sure that she isn't really tossing her stories and art off as if they took no work at all - she just manages to seem that way.

I actually suspect that when she gets a creative idea, no matter how silly/weird/odd it may be, it just has to come out. Happily for her perhaps, her ideas don't often seem to require her to write novels to satisfy the itch. (As an example of the sillier end of the spectrum, witness her My Little Piggy. This was the result of an LJ thread that went horribly weird one day.)
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on August 23rd, 2011 11:45 am (UTC)
On consideration, the word I could have used was 'whimsical'.
UrsulaVursulav on August 23rd, 2011 02:08 pm (UTC)
Noooo! I am very flattered, of course, but dear me, you are absurdly talented and also very different and have written---what, three books to every one of mine? Some ridiculous ratio like that? And a lot of mine are kid's semi-comic-books, which certainly aren't effortless but which run 15K and thus tend to be over and done with far more rapidly. The size of your catalog makes a twitch start under my left eye.

And if it helps at all, I have my own pit, and when I start to think "I will never write anything as dark and grime-encrusted as "Perdido Street Station" or as elegant and painful as "Last Unicorn" or just plain as suck-me-in-and-keep-me-reading as...oh, most of Barbara Hambly, including the Star Trek novels, goddamnit...I crawl into said pit and poke at the ankles of passers-by with pointy sticks until I feel better.
TuftEars: Wynxtuftears on August 23rd, 2011 06:05 pm (UTC)
Speaking of, barbara_hambly is on LJ, yes!
kitmizkit on August 23rd, 2011 06:11 pm (UTC)
Let us not introduce reason into any of this. THIS IS ANGST, DAMMIT!

Edited at 2011-08-23 06:12 pm (UTC)
UrsulaVursulav on August 23rd, 2011 07:06 pm (UTC)
Oh, well, in THAT case. Would you like one of my pointy sticks? I have several.
kitmizkit on August 23rd, 2011 07:29 pm (UTC)
Yes please. *selects one, & bristles*
Sionainnsionainn on August 23rd, 2011 06:42 pm (UTC)
I am sitting here with tears (of mirth) flooding my eyes as I read the line, "poke at the ankles of passers-by with pointy sticks" because YES. I HAVE FELT THIS WAY TOO.

You have a way of turning a phrase that makes me laugh & laugh uncontrollably.
Andrea Blytheblythe025 on August 23rd, 2011 05:00 pm (UTC)
Ursula's story is wonderful and delightful and uniquely her own.

But this should not discourage you, because you are also a wonderful and delightful author, and I have no doubt that when you get to writing your own fairy tale rewrites, you will come up with something wonderful and delightful and uniquely your own.
version2pointoiversion2pointoi on August 23rd, 2011 05:54 pm (UTC)
Long time reader, first time poster. Hope that this commentary isn't too garbled!

I am a fan of both you and Ms. Vernon (in fact, I got introduced to your work via a one-off comment about Ms. Vernon reading Urban Shaman) and I find that while Ursula's stuff has her charms, with being dark and creepy and charming all at once, you know that her stories don't fit into any reality we'd recognize. The Walker Papers and Negotiator trilogy actually makes it semi-believable that selkies, and gargoyles, and Coyote-the-trickster and huge fucking spirit-snakes, could actually exist in our reality. Ursula writes in archetypes, and she twists them all out of whack until your eyes are filled with weird wonders -- but they are still archetypes. You write in worlds where I can imagine bitching about body issues with the main character over a nice, malty beer. Both make incredibly enjoyable reads, but they evoke completely different reactions from me, the reader. And I like Ursula's new post about the Red Riding hood thing, but I am also really looking forward to seeing where YOU go with the fairy tales.
Sionainnsionainn on August 23rd, 2011 06:43 pm (UTC)
!! Yes!
Trent the Uncatchableknappenp on August 24th, 2011 08:44 pm (UTC)
Clearly it's time to branch out. Time to gather stories from, oh, everybody. And make Snow, Wicked, Bird, Glass, Song, and whatever else into collections of stories, and maybe find an editor (or do it yourself) and a publisher. And, you know, don't do the whole thing yourself.

I bet Terri Windling and Ellen Datlow could tell you how, even.
kitmizkit on August 24th, 2011 08:45 pm (UTC)
Yes, but that would fail the dipping into epub roll that I'm intending this to be, see. :)