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03 April 2011 @ 12:31 pm

I am assured by people of Reasonable Reputation (I’m looking at you, Chaz) that it is not only okay to re-use not just the jars but the actual lids, even off store-bought jam jars, and that this will not cause the lids to not seal and give everybody botulism and kill them horribly. I am assured of this.

So if the applesauce gives us botulism and kills us horribly, blame Chaz. :)

(x-posted from the essential kit)
Megabitchmegabitch on April 3rd, 2011 11:50 am (UTC)
Yup. I usually boil the lids along with the jars for a good 15-20 mins or so directly before filling them. Nobody who has had any of my jams, butters or chutneys has so far died from eating them :)
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on April 3rd, 2011 12:48 pm (UTC)
That you've heard from, anyway.
Megabitchmegabitch on April 3rd, 2011 02:52 pm (UTC)
This is true, I have to admit.
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on April 3rd, 2011 03:00 pm (UTC)
So tell me, what proportion of those to whom you handed out jars have you not heard from since? And have you considered gifts to certain relatives?
Megabitchmegabitch on April 3rd, 2011 03:29 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, you're not generally allowed to take food into .au.

Oh, I have had some good news on that front, despite it being Dad's 70th this year and me thinking I'd have to bite the bullet and go visit, it turns out that I can't. My sister, Julie, and her creep of a husband are taking him to Bali for two weeks (meeting up with Dad's sister and her husband over there as well) over his birthday and my mother will be cruising the Med with other friends. Woot! I've now booked a week in Cornwall in Sept for me and Korenwolf and will investigate other holiday options for another week or two at a different time (maybe a bit closer, like early May *g*). Of course, this means we'll probably have to make the time to visit next year instead.
anthony_lionanthony_lion on April 3rd, 2011 12:17 pm (UTC)
Works just fine as long as you boil both jars and lids.

They don't last too many years, though as you can't replace the gasket in the lid, but as long as you check that before reusing it everything should be good.

I have tried to 'standardise' on certain jars, the small tomato puree glasses, 400gram jam jars(a cheap brand they sell at a discount store), and 'barrel-shaped' jars containing herring filets in a spicy brine.
The puree glasses I intend to use for 'specialty' stuff.
(Rowanberry jello, if I ever get around to making it, pickled chilis, stuff like that)
I have a few larger jars, too, and hopefully, a few of those will contain pickles come fall...

Using the same size jars for the entire batch of applesauce, jam, pickles or whatever means it can be stacked more neatly in the cupboards or shelves.
(Neatly = compact, important for me who can only set asive a cupboard in my kitchen. No basement or larder... *Sigh*)

Patrick Samphirepsamphire on April 3rd, 2011 12:17 pm (UTC)
It's generally okay, but I've found some brands of shop-bought jam jars don't seal very well and the contents go mouldy, so make sure you've got a real seal on them before you store them.
anthony_lionanthony_lion on April 3rd, 2011 01:03 pm (UTC)
Amen to that.

If the lid doesn't flex in when the content cool down, it's not a tight seal and must be eaten up fast instead of stored.
kitmizkit on April 3rd, 2011 01:17 pm (UTC)
There's really not any doubt the applesauce will get eaten up before it has any chance to go bad anyway. :)
joycemocha on April 3rd, 2011 03:12 pm (UTC)
Um...jars and rings reusable, yes.

Lids, no. In fact, hysterical fit no. Not for anything above and beyond jams, and even then I process those in a boiling water bath with new lids each time. I used to seal my jams and jellies with paraffin, but now I don't because one batch too many went moldy (for point of reference, though, I live in Portland, Oregon in the lovely and moldy Pacific Northwet).

My mother and I used to preserve massive amounts of food when I was growing up, and I've done a passing fair amount of it myself in the past thirty years. New lids every time.
desperancedesperance on April 3rd, 2011 03:38 pm (UTC)
Hee. And here I am, for the first time in my life buying new jars & lids... We appear to have changed souls. But I'm not doing it for reasons of health, hygiene or preservation: only 'cos they look nicer, and I'm giving all the marmalade away.

I and the generation before me have spent our entire lifetimes reusing jars, lids and everything. The habits of a parsimonious nation, I guess, reinforced by wartime necessities: but if people had been dropping dead in all directions, any time this last century or so, I think we would have heard about it.

You'll be fine.
wednesday childewedschilde on April 3rd, 2011 03:56 pm (UTC)
yep, you can totally reuse the bottles and lids. chaz is correct.
wednesday childewedschilde on April 3rd, 2011 03:58 pm (UTC)
oh and my mom and her family grew up dirt poor. buying new lids each time would have meant skipping a couple of dinners for a family of eight. none of us have died. hell, if that were the case, i wouldn't have a sprawling family of 250 cousins. darwinism would have culled out the weak.
Kristine Smith: berrieskristine_smith on April 3rd, 2011 09:19 pm (UTC)
I've reused jars/lids from storebought jam for freezer chutney. Still breathing. Not sure if that counts
Geek of Weird Shit: weldinggows on April 4th, 2011 12:14 am (UTC)
Just make sure a) you process/boil the lidded jars long enough, and b) that if a lid pops before you open the jar On Purpose that you throw away the contents and ditch the lid.
Geek of Weird Shit: weldinggows on April 4th, 2011 12:16 am (UTC)
. . . which reminds me, I have both goodly amounts of soup and applesauce that need canning up.