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09 September 2009 @ 10:23 am
Mission: Destroy the Marvel Universe  

I had this peculiar and complex dream this morning that someone was trying to destroy the Marvel Universe (and no, this mysterious villain was not a shadowy figure with giant mouse ears). The interesting thing about this particular dream was that it wasn’t an attempt to destroy it from within. Someone was trying to eradicate it from the real world. Joe Quesada (the current editor in chief) was next on their hit list, and there were creators who had been entirely eliminated from the timeline already.

Claremont, in fact, wasn’t doing so well. The only two of his characters I saw were Kitty and Nightcrawler, though there was some reference to Colossus. Lee & Kirby were doing better: all the original X-Men, including Xavier, were still on hand, although it appeared that Jean was, as usual, dead. They, like people outside the comic, were fighting for the universe’s survival; Xavier seemed to be concentrating on–struggling to–keep memories of who and what they were in the X-Men’s minds, so they could continue to fight. It was fairly clear that–perhaps despite the villain’s intentions–the unravelling was happening more or less linearly

But one of the most interesting things was that according to the Resistance (who appeared to come from the present and future and could go into either *our* universe or the comic book universe with equal ease, depending on where the fight needed to be taken), the villains had already succeeded in wiping out the most popular female superhero from the Marvel universe. Had succeeded so well, in fact, that none of us who were modern fans had ever heard of Gemma Fade: she had simply never existed in the Marvel timeline. Had succeeded so well that the Resistance, even with their ability to move through time, weren’t certain what Gemma’s powers or story were, only that she had, at one time–in one world–been an iconic superhero who stood shoulder to shoulder with Superman in global recognizeability.

I’m pretty curious about Gemma now. :)

(x-posted from the essential kit)
 
 
Current Mood: curiouscurious
 
 
 
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on September 9th, 2009 05:30 am (UTC)
Your subconscious is trying to tell you something.

Myself, I'd give your subconscious a good talking to, with phrases like 'not enough hours in the day' and 'so when do I get a day off' in it.

(I'd so like to read this story, though. I wonder: do you take commissions?)
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 07:06 am (UTC)
"Gemma Fade"
"The landscape is barren. Windswept sands, jutting stone with edges softened by time, and a hard white sun above it all. I push my hands into the sand until they are buried wrist-deep, and from there gain the purchase necessary to drive myself to my feet. I stagger a few more steps, as buffeted by the wind as the land around me is. I have no destination, no goal; all I can think are a scattering of words so remote they hold no meaning to me.

This is Krypton to Kal-El, I think. This is the red sun to a man raised beneath the yellow. This is power, stripped away.

I have no idea who I am or what I mean, but these incessant thoughts tell me that something is lost. That once, I would have understood the words echoing in my mind; that now, there's something to be regained, a battle to be fought and won. And this is all I know about myself, now:

It's reason enough to keep going."
(no subject) - mizkit on September 9th, 2009 01:21 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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madmiss on September 9th, 2009 05:38 am (UTC)
eh.... is it possible to get dream envy?
Cyrano: Hunny Potcyranocyrano on September 9th, 2009 05:49 am (UTC)
I found her on FaceBook! But she supports Tottenham, so she can't be as cool as all that.
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on September 9th, 2009 06:22 am (UTC)
Ah. Google™ is your friend.

(I note this post is currently #4 if you Google "Gemma Fade". Wow. Just wow. That Nottingham girl is going to be one confused lass if she ever does a vanity Google.)

Edited at 2009-09-09 10:31 am (UTC)
holmes44holmes44 on September 9th, 2009 07:16 am (UTC)
that is so good and you are such a tease.
Laura Anne Gilman: evil laughsuricattus on September 9th, 2009 07:17 am (UTC)
Hah -- this is your brain trying to get you into yet another aspect of the industry, 'cause that's a game if ever I heard one pitched...
Nimtouchstone on September 9th, 2009 07:38 am (UTC)
So, send in the proposal. I mean, really. This is awesome.
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 09:37 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't let you do massive cross-universe events as your first project out, at Marvel... :)
Trent the Uncatchableknappenp on September 9th, 2009 08:34 am (UTC)
Wasn't that sort of the source for Sentry in the Marvel Universe? Though he was eradicated from everyone's memory by his own choice, not by some amazing cross-universe plot...
eilisflynneilisflynn on September 9th, 2009 09:28 am (UTC)
Where was Len Wein in all this? Don't forget, he was the creator of those X-men characters you mentioned (I remember their debut)!
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 09:36 am (UTC)
Having his inventions mis-attributed to Claremont, as usual, apparently. :)
UrsulaVursulav on September 9th, 2009 10:55 am (UTC)
Do *I* have to talk to *you* about overwork now?
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 01:21 pm (UTC)
o.o
Harold Zablehzatz on September 9th, 2009 11:23 am (UTC)
Wait... I'm sure I had some Gemma Fade comics over here somewhere...
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 01:33 pm (UTC)
But now they're MISSING, aren't they!
(no subject) - hzatz on September 9th, 2009 01:38 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Andrea Blytheblythe025 on September 9th, 2009 12:33 pm (UTC)
Awesome dream. I'm pretty curious about Gemma now, too. :)
16:9 1.78:1 OAR: Ryusixteenbynine on September 9th, 2009 01:11 pm (UTC)
... As strange as this sound, you comments helped me snap together a couple of missing pieces in a story I've been working on for next year.

The story revolves around the quirks of the creative process, and about the creator becoming a part of his creation whether or not he wants to be, etc.

All I'm saying is, a) thank you and b) I hope you don't mind if some minor variant of this notion turns up in the book I'm going to be writing next year?
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 01:13 pm (UTC)
So long as Gemma doesn't, as I think I'm rather taken with her. :)
Harold Zablehzatz on September 9th, 2009 01:40 pm (UTC)
You have noticed that Gemma Fade is on Facebook, right?

...

I wonder if she's read any of your books. :-)
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 05:20 pm (UTC)
I did, cyranocyrano pointed it out, and I seeeeeeeeeriously doubt it. That would start to get recursive. :)
(no subject) - hzatz on September 9th, 2009 05:22 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Liralen Liliralen on September 9th, 2009 02:11 pm (UTC)
Oh, that is a wonderful dream.
Lady Doomlithera on September 9th, 2009 03:15 pm (UTC)
Now /that/ is a universe I would /love/ to do some playing with. What about creators who had things in multiple universes? Would it happen that some times the wrong character got taken out? What happens to the stories when the people vanish? Do cross-overs re-write themselves to compensate?
kitmizkit on September 9th, 2009 04:53 pm (UTC)
I think so, WRT crossovers, and get correspondingly smaller and less complex until eventually they wink out of existence. It would be *so* fun to write!

The multiple universe-creator thing would depend on licensing rights, if one were to actually do this, but I would say yes, within the boundaries of fiction, probably sometimes things get screwed up and somebody gets wiped out of a different universe. Whether they're then re-created or a similar character is introduced or what, I donno... :)
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