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30 June 2009 @ 06:00 pm
aaaaand he lost me  

In possibly the fastest-ever reversal on a comic book I’ve ever experienced, X-MEN FOREVER #2 put me off reading the series entirely. I’ll probably pick it up in (softcover) trade, but wow, I’ve never gone from really quite eager to read a series to dropping it that fast. There’s no continuity between 1 & 2. They skipped a huge chunk of action, which we will presumably learn As The Story Plays Out, but it’s not a storytelling ploy that I’m willing to accept. It just pissed me off, and even Ted, who is *much* more lenient than I am, said, “Well, I can wait for the trade now.”

I also picked up the hardcovers for ASTONISHING X-MEN 1 & 2, because I’m hopelessly behind on the X-Men in general, which is not a good state for someone who’d like to write for Marvel to be in. I’m still pissed at one of the Astonishing storylines (and think Joss’s Emma and Kitty sound like Spike and Buffy, which, no. gah. bad. wrong.), so Ted was very surprised when I picked them up. B I have to start catching up *somewhere*, and Astonishing is at least an obvious and visible break point from some of the stuff that’s come before. And I’ve *read* most of what’s come before, so at least I’ve got legs to stand on there.

At P-Con, paulcornell2/Paul Cornell and I were bemoaning the lack of a Complete Marvel Graphic Novels page on the internet. We believe it should exist. We believe it should tell us all of the Marvel graphic novels, and the order in which to read them. We both, it turns out, have thought, “I should make that list!”, and then thought, “Wow, but such a lot of work, somebody else must have done it by now,” but neither of us have been able to find it. I suspect there’s an entire internet full of Marvel fans thinking, “I should make that list! …wow, but such a lot of work, somebody else must have done it by now…”

ytd km swum: 47.7

(x-posted from the essential kit)
Current Mood: apatheticapathetic
Traveler Farlandertwfarlan on June 30th, 2009 05:14 pm (UTC)
One would think that Marvel, a group who would presumably like to sell more copies of their books, would put up a checklist of sorts for graphic novels and softcover trades that would serve just such a desirable function. I'm hard-pressed to think of a single smaller comic house that does not offer such a list in the back of their softcovers.
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 05:16 pm (UTC)
And then presumably they think, "…wow, but such a lot of work, somebody else must have done it by now…” :)

Marvel does have /some/ listings, but they're not very thorough.
Lady Doomlithera on June 30th, 2009 05:28 pm (UTC)
I can recommend Astonishing as generally a good read with Joss and then Warren Ellis. Also... Well... Hrmmm. Legacy has been good recently but I can't really recommend anything else X right now. It is all kind of crap.

What I am reading that I would recommend without reservation:
Detective Comics
Wonder Woman
Green Lantern
Tiny Titans
Turning the Schmaltz up to 11: brain cell civil warpullthestars on June 30th, 2009 05:32 pm (UTC)
I think that it would be a whole lot of fun to put something like that list together.

maybe a Wiki site? Wetpaint seems to be a good site for that.

I'm dead serious, actually. My main problem being that I know less than you about Marvel :)
irishkate: Storm prettyirishkate on June 30th, 2009 06:08 pm (UTC)
Wow - surely somebody has done that? No? Wow - someone really should.

I can't believe one doesn't exist..
rfrancis on June 30th, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
I like non-linear storytelling quite a bit, but not when chunks of the plot thus told come out a month apart, geez.

Of course, I currently read no comics that come out on such a schedule. Or don't come out on the web, for that matter. Unless I'm buying them in trade. So I guess I'm not into the whole coming out a month apart thing anyway. :)

martianmooncrabmartianmooncrab on June 30th, 2009 06:31 pm (UTC)
maybe Things from Another World (the DarkHorse storefront) has a pretty good list of the compilations.
Trent the Uncatchable: comicsknappenp on July 1st, 2009 01:45 pm (UTC)
I would start with http://marvel.wikia.com/ and work up from there. But I'm *sure* I've come across something similar once upon a time.
Trent the Uncatchable: comicsknappenp on July 1st, 2009 01:52 pm (UTC)
And I just found this, which is X-Men Graphic Novels through 2003: http://www.hahnlibrary.net/comics/xmen-gns.html