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30 June 2009 @ 10:53 am
holy carp!  

I awakened this morning to discover the short story commission has reached its minimum goal! On Friday, August 7th, I will send out “Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight” to all of my patrons, who will be the only people to see it until I find a market elsewhere for it or even possibly until I have enough stories for an Old Races anthology. If you were waiting to see if the story was going to be a go before becoming a patron, perhaps this is the time to act.

I’m trying to figure out if it would be…fair, for lack of a better word, to let people become patrons via direct payment to me instead of through fundable, which requires a $10 minimum. I think I’d probably still have to set it at $5 or something, because I would not want people who went through fundable to feel ripped off, but I’m kind of afraid that offering a buy-in option after the base goal is met is…well, not fair. If people, particularly those who’ve become patrons, would like to weigh in on this, I would be very interested to hear your opinions.

My friend bryant/Bryant (who suggested this experiment) refers to this as a potential sustainable funding model. One of the peculiar things about being a writer is that there is no steady paycheck, and there’s not a great deal of direct-market paying work done on individual levels (tons of fan fiction, yes, and plenty of freebies, but less in the way of finding a market than, say, many musicians or visual artists seem to have managed). Mostly we sell books or short stories which are provided to the reader via a publisher, so this is an interesting, exciting, and somewhat terrifying thing for me to try. I would *love* to be able to do this quarterly, presumably with stories of differing lengths and therefore differing minimum commission goals.

Thank you all very, *very* much for making this work for me. You have no idea how excited I am, or how much I’m looking forward to writing this story. I’ve known since the beginning that there was some kind of story about Janx and Daisani and the Great Chicago Fire, and now I get to find out what it is!

(x-posted from the essential kit)
 
 
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Natural20natural20 on June 30th, 2009 06:06 am (UTC)
This is a tricky one. Part of me wants to say, "No, mine!", but of course it isn't mine, at all. I think, to be very honest about it, I'd prefer for the playing field to remain level, so that people can continue to donate up until the deadline using the same method. Ultimately, of course, this is your story and your income, so it's up to you, but that strikes me as the fairest option.
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 06:10 am (UTC)
Yeah, I think that that's probably...well, fair. Possibly I shouldn't even have to ask, but I kind of feel like I'm still poking at the edges of this to see what does or doesn't work, you know?
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 12:19 pm (UTC)
Hey, what about this as a solution:

Right now the initial patrons, ie, everybody who buys in by July 7, will get the story straight-away. After 3 months, for a week or a month, I'll put the story up for sale at the base patronage rate of $10. After that, it goes away again until it sees some kind of traditional publication.

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irishkateirishkate on June 30th, 2009 08:15 am (UTC)
Done - whew.


*grin*
Pamela: Sarcasmjeditigger on June 30th, 2009 09:20 am (UTC)
*raises hand*

Duh.
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 09:28 am (UTC)
*laughs* Er, duh?

Oh, duh that it reached the commission goal? Aaah, you have more faith than I, perhaps. Or maybe less fear of humiliation... :)

Edited at 2009-06-30 01:39 pm (UTC)
Pamela: HEEjeditigger on June 30th, 2009 09:57 am (UTC)
Well, that, as I have more faith in you than you do, but also I CAN HAS PATRUN STATUS PLZ.

:)
ghibbitudeghibbitude on June 30th, 2009 09:30 am (UTC)
Yeh.. I didn't get paid until today and I'm probably not unique. I think it would be unfair to be excluded because I didn't have the money within that window of time to do it.
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 09:35 am (UTC)
Well, it's open for another week...
ghibbitudeghibbitude on June 30th, 2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
well, I meant if you were to close it before my cheque cleared on the grounds of "it's already paid up, all you other losers that wanted to wait to get paid miss out!" haha (which is not a valid or anything like impersonation of how you truly are)
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
*laughs out loud*

*practices going *HA HA*, but keeps laughing too much*

If it closes before the check clears, there'll be another opportunity to buy in, three months after the story's written. I think that's how I'll handle it. Just remember to try to keep ten bucks aside. :)
Janne: trek whee!janne on June 30th, 2009 09:36 am (UTC)
Hooray for reaching the goal! No objections to alternate ways of buying in my case, though maybe there would be less potential for misunderstandings if you delayed that option for the next quarterly fundraising so it's known in advance?
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 09:38 am (UTC)
Yeah, that's one of the problems with doing a "buy later" option, isn't it? People might very reasonably wait until the cheaper option came up, which might well mean it wouldn't come up at all...
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on July 3rd, 2009 07:35 am (UTC)
Yes, but they're going to have to wait.

I CAN HAZ ST0R3 NOW PLZ?
Ellen Millionellenmillion on June 30th, 2009 12:49 pm (UTC)
I like the idea of enabling paypal payments because hello, pound of flesh and all. But I think I'd keep the minimum at $10, just to keep it fair.
Pamelajeditigger on June 30th, 2009 01:11 pm (UTC)
Yes, this.
Lady Doomlithera on June 30th, 2009 01:21 pm (UTC)
Well, this seems to be going around a bit. I ran into a man yesterday who writes personalized short stories for a living - $50 each. He uses the rest of his time to go on crusades and oragnize rallies and generally try to be a force for good in the world, which is just... amazing in a way.

Anyway, I would be more than happy to be a patron and $10 is certainly a level I would be more than happy to be at, as I was considering a monthly sum ... well, it was larger than that, certainly.
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 01:24 pm (UTC)
You've already bought in! You are a patron! :)

...now I feel like I should be going out to save the world. *despair* :)
Lady Doomlithera on June 30th, 2009 01:28 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes. That's not the same thing, though. I'm thinking monthly, every month sort of thingy. More ... I don't know. More something. Steady? Sustained?
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 01:33 pm (UTC)
Oh, oh, you're talking like proper patronage like we discussed before, rather than project based, sorry, my misinterpretation. :)

Wow, I hadn't been thinking in terms of that kind of thing at all, really. I mean, I'm not exactly sure how I would even approach something like that from the artist's side. "Would you like to become my patron? For $100 a month you get first reader privileges for novels, access to any short stories I write, and...my undying gratitude?" :)
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 01:36 pm (UTC)
Or possibly (theoretically depending on when my publisher sends them to me) early, author-signed book editions rather than my undying gratitude...? :)
The Bellinghmanbellinghman on July 3rd, 2009 07:37 am (UTC)
Is there a resale value for undying gratitude?

(*snigger*)
Lady Doomlithera on June 30th, 2009 01:52 pm (UTC)
*laughs*

Any time you want to have the conversation, let me know. I'd be willing to work something out, if you would be willing to experiement. I know friends and money can be odd friends at times.
Jannejanne on June 30th, 2009 02:41 pm (UTC)
I'm reading/trying to read The Man Without Qualities (too much for my overheated brain right now), which according to the preface the author spent 20+ years writing without finishing it, for a while mostly funded by admiring patrons (Well, admiring of his writing, apparently he had zero interpersonal skills...) So with your EQ and actually production of something in return for patronage, why not :D
kitmizkit on June 30th, 2009 03:30 pm (UTC)
See, I don't even get on any level how you go about finding admiring patrons with enough money to, well, fund you while you work. Or don't work. I mean, really, how does that *work*?