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17 June 2009 @ 07:33 pm
triumph. sort of.  

I reached the part of the book where I can start putting stuff back into TRUTHSEEKER again. The place where I started to do that was, in the original manuscript, page 42. It’s page 85 now. A whole chapter went back in with almost no revisions, which was exciting. I have no idea how this whole middle section will end up working, at this point. It’ll be a little shorter, which will make my editor happy, but shortening it means the last section is going to have to be lengthened, which doesn’t make /me/ happy.

I have to go in to Dublin on Saturday to exchange the new shoes I bought. There happens to be a Dublin Improv Movement/Frozen Dublin (facebook pages) Big Freeze going on at 3pm Saturday afternoon at the spire, so if anybody would like to, I don’t know, grab lunch and then go hold still at the Millennium Spire for five minutes on Saturday, that would be cool.

We got my bicycle fixed! I now need to get a lock for it again, and then I can ride it to and from the gym, and possibly, excitingly, some other places too!

jimhines/Jim Hines talks sense about a writing career vs real/day/safe jobs.

And to pull together five things make a post, I will briefly natter about X-Men Noir and X-Men Forever

X-Men Noir sucked. It was not the X-Men. It was a bunch of humans in the late 20s or early 30s who were given the X-Men’s names. Even drawing Gambit as Adrian Brody in no way made up for this. It would have been a perfectly fine noir story, particularly if it had come out *before* The Prestige or The Illusionist, without using X-Men names in it. I am extremely disappointed I bought it, especially in hardback. :p

X-Men Forever, otoh, amused me. This is Chris Claremont’s return/reboot of the X-Men, backing up twenty years to pick up the story he claims he intended to tell after the first 3 X-Men comics ended (X-Men, as opposed to Uncanny X-Men, began in 1990ish with a story of Fabian Cortez kicking Magneto’s ass, and Claremont left the new title after 3 issues). In the first issue, Kitty Pryde plays the role of LET ME EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU IN CASE YOU MISSED ANYTHING, which is pretty standard Claremont writing but it was so obvious in this case I thought it was funny.

I also was amused by the Scott/Jean/Logan love triangle, which, frankly, I never thought was all that much of a triangle really, as it was always quite clear Jean was never, ever, ever going to leave Scott. However, this issue opens up with what Ted and I have been calling LET ME MAKE THIS LOVE TRIANGLE PERFECTLY CLEAR, and so we of course wonder if it was much clearer in Claremont’s head, all those years ago.

Peculiarities: Remy’s last name has been changed to Picard (which makes his father Jean-Luc Picard o.O), and Rogue’s been given the name she’s been using in more recent comics, Anna-Marie Raven (after Anna Paquin and Marie D’Ancanto, which was Rogue’s name in the movie, and after Mystique, whose real name is Raven Darkholme). I particularly hate the “Raven” part of her name; if it was Anna-Marie Darkholme I’d be much less irritated, and if it was just Marie *anything* I’d be satisfied (mostly because I gave her the name Marie back when we played on Classic X, the short-lived MUSH of yore, and I am nothing if not egotistical). Their accents have largely been dropped, too, which is really probably just as well. :)

I’m interested enough that I may keep getting the monthlies (or the bi-monthlies, as it happens, since they’re coming out every two weeks), but mostly–because I read an interview with Claremont which said, “Of course the idea of what to do with them has evolved since in the twenty years since I didn’t write this,”–mostly I kind of wish I could see the story he’d been *going* to tell two decades ago, and compare it to the one he’s going to tell now.

The covers for issues 2-4 look like the X-Men get a makeover in badass between issues 3 and 4. And like Kitty’s taking charge. Which would be very Claremont, and very cool. So yeah. Having fun with that, anyway. ;)

(x-posted from the essential kit)

Current Mood: okayokay
larah33larah33 on June 17th, 2009 07:15 pm (UTC)
Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the 90's X-Men cartoon? Canon? AU? Shiny fun but doesn't count? ^_^
kitmizkit on June 17th, 2009 07:44 pm (UTC)
Dude, nothing is canon in the Marvel universe. I think the 90's cartoon is actually my /least/ favorite X-Men cartoon, but it has its charms anyway. :)
rfrancis on June 17th, 2009 11:26 pm (UTC)
nothing is canon in the Marvel universe.

Hee hee hee.
Lady Doomlithera on June 17th, 2009 07:28 pm (UTC)
I, personally, would like Anna-Marie Adler, as that almost seems more likely to me as a concession.

And Picard is dumb, even if I'd alwways sort of grumbled about Remy's last name. I imagined it as something he'd given to himself as a name and not actually his name at all. (And yeah, that made me chuckle with his dad...)
kit: xmen_gambit_gotpowermizkit on June 17th, 2009 07:43 pm (UTC)
Where's the Adler from?

*laughs* Yes, actually, it seems more like a name he'd give himself than a real last name, but I think Picard is worse, under the circumstances. :)
Lady Doomlithera on June 17th, 2009 07:50 pm (UTC)
Irene Adler was Destiny. Given how angry she and Raven get with each other... I've always thought that would be more likely.
kit: xmen_roguemizkit on June 17th, 2009 07:52 pm (UTC)
Oh! Right! Of course.

Okay, yes. I'm with you on this. Rogue's real name from here on out is Anna-Marie Adler. So mote it be, and if I ever get to write the X-Men... :)
Lady Doomlithera on June 17th, 2009 08:28 pm (UTC)

Did you see in X-men legacy where Xavier finally gave her control of her powers? There seems to be really little talk about that for something so huge.
kit: xmen_x3mizkit on June 17th, 2009 08:33 pm (UTC)
Uh. No. Where...? What? What's Legacy?
Lady Doomlithera on June 17th, 2009 08:35 pm (UTC)

And per Wiki: "After this, it is revealed that Rogue's powers never truly developed past their initial "nascent" stage, which was the reason why her powers never functioned properly. The Professor, now aware of this fact, uses his telepathy to tear down the mental walls that kept Rogue's powers from developing (the walls were created as a side effect every time she absorbed other people starting with Cody, and even more so with Ms. Marvel), as well as removing the mental echo of Mystique. Finally Rogue kisses Gambit, with no ill side effect, revealing that she is in control of her absorption power."
kit: xmen_smoochmizkit on June 17th, 2009 08:42 pm (UTC)
...I'm torn. On the one hand, I think "didn't develop past the nascent stage" is sort of stupid. On the other, I can kind of buy that it's true, that absorbing Cody fucked her right up, a la Jean getting fucked up by her powers awakening when her best friend got smashed by a car. On the third, I've been thinking for YEARS that goddamned Xavier should fix Rogue's poor head and let her have a life, so I can't be against it...
Lady Doomlithera on June 17th, 2009 08:45 pm (UTC)
Yeah. It actually makes sense and bothers me that it took so LONG because people didn't want to let go of the plot possibilities. Then again, I'd then write her as a woman who would be both gun shy and obscenely eager about the physicality her new control could bring.

I'm sure that Cody and Carol and everyone else who she absorbed who hated her in her head likely caused all sorts of damage that just made it harder.
kit: xmen_thanksmemoriesmizkit on June 17th, 2009 08:47 pm (UTC)
Yeah. If I were Rogue with control I would...boy. Man. In love with Gambit or not, there's a whoooooooole big field out there to play. But at the same time the handful of time she's had control of some sort she's been *extremely* shy about actually making physical contact. A lifetime of isolation would do that to you. And I don't think the plot possibilities are /lessened/ by giving her control. On the contrary...
Lady Doomlithera on June 17th, 2009 08:51 pm (UTC)

Well, I think the shyness comes from it being temporary and, well, having been cut off from it for so very long. I can see where even if she has control, she'd be leery of it as well as wanting to indulge. A nice mix of desire and fear and... Hrmmmm.
kitmizkit on June 17th, 2009 08:54 pm (UTC)
And poor Remy over there beating his head on the wall because now he can have the femme and she's off tomcatting around like he's been doing HIS WHOLE LIFE. a little hard to resent the girl for wanting that...
GM Ceosanna: Vintage Girlceosanna on June 17th, 2009 08:20 pm (UTC)
If I was anywhere near Dublin, I would love to participate in the improv event. I can't wait to read about your experience with it!
kitmizkit on June 17th, 2009 08:48 pm (UTC)
I shall write it up!
stahrtledstarhrtled on June 17th, 2009 08:51 pm (UTC)
Irene Adler? The Sherlock Holmes character? Well, he did "forever after refer to her as "The Woman"". *grin*
kitmizkit on June 17th, 2009 09:04 pm (UTC)
...could be, in fact. Destiny lived a very long time.
Gerrigerriwritinglog on June 17th, 2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
Chris Claremont...


kitmizkit on June 17th, 2009 09:43 pm (UTC)
I like Claremont. :)
irishkateirishkate on June 17th, 2009 11:14 pm (UTC)
I'll be in Dublin - whether I can meet or not is not yet known but it is possible...

And wouldn't it make Remy Jean-Luc's grandfather or something?
Alana Joli Abbottalanajoli on June 18th, 2009 08:09 pm (UTC)
We've been picking up a lot of the Noirs as monthlies, and enjoying them, but none of them (with the exception of Daredevil) are very much like the regular comics. No powers, because that's not the story being told. I really liked the pulp prose story that was at the back of the comics, but mostly because it was so pulpy. I think the Spiderman Noir adaptation has actually worked best for the set, but I read a lot of the "Fairytales" books, too, so I obviously don't mind my stories being messed with!
kitmizkit on June 18th, 2009 08:18 pm (UTC)
I was told the Spider-Man one was pretty good. My basic problem is that I genuinely don't see these characters as the X-Men. The Fairytales stories were the X-Men *characters* in fairy tale situations, and I liked those, but I just feel "no powers" means "not X-Men". The mutant abilities are part of what make all of those characters who they are, and by removing that, eh. Non-powered humans with the X-Mens' names are not what I'm looking for in an X story. :)
Alana Joli Abbottalanajoli on June 18th, 2009 09:42 pm (UTC)
That makes perfect sense. I'm several issues behind on most of the mini-series, and may end up feeling the same way by the end.