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15 February 2012 @ 02:09 pm
The Great Big Crowdfunding Poll  
The following poll is long (a whopping FOURTEEN QUESTIONS!!!), so I'm putting it behind a cut. You will notice I am No Fun At All, and have not made this a Ticky Box Poll, but rather a Radio Button Poll, which means only one answer per question. This is because I'm more or less trying to avoid "all of the above" answers, because I'm trying to get an idea of what might work *best*, and "all of the above" doesn't necessarily help me, or indeed anyone else trying to learn from this, in that regard.

Feel free, of course, to also comment and tell me that "all of the above" is suitable, but if you'd be so good as to jump through my hoops too, I would appreciate it. :)

Anyway, in order to try to gain a sense of scale, there are variations on some of the questions, so you're not actually stuck with just one answer, just a range of importance. I hope. :)

Poll #1819148 The Great Big Crowdfunding Poll

I have bought into CE Murphy crowdfunding campaigns before.


I bought into "No Dominion" primarily because:

It was the Walker Papers
It was Gary
It was a Kickstarter campaign
It was the first CE Murphy crowdfund campaign I'd heard of
Other, to be delineated in comments

I bought into the "No Dominion" campaign *secondarily* because:

It was Walker Papers
It was Gary
It was a Kickstarter campaign
It was the first CE Murphy crowdfund campaign I'd heard of
Other, to be delineated in comments

How much does creator enthusiasm affect your willingness to buy into a campaign?

Not very much: I either would or wouldn't buy in anyway
A lot! It made me want to participate!
A lot! It made me want to run away screaming!

How much does the Kickstarter aspect of being able to see others' enthusiasm affect your willingness to buy into a campaign?

Not very much: I either would or wouldn't buy in anyway
A lot! It made me want to participate!
A lot! It made me want to run away screaming!

How much does the Kickstarter reward levels aspect affect your willingness to buy into a campaign?

Not very much: I either would or wouldn't buy in anyway
A lot! It made me want to participate!
A lot! It made me want to run away screaming!

Aside from "No Dominion" itself, the following reward is the most compelling:

Name in acknowledgements
Extra short stories
Extra novellas
Opportunity for the limited edition print run of the whole project
Making Kit sing "Wind Beneath My Wings"
Other Swag (cover art posters/bookmarks/postcards/calendars)
Other (pliz comment!)

Aside from "No Dominion" itself, the following reward is the *second* most compelling:

Name in acknowledgements
Extra short stories
Extra novellas
Opportunity for the limited edition print run of the whole project
Making Kit sing "Wind Beneath My Wings"
Other Swag (cover art posters/bookmarks/postcards/calendars)
Other (pliz comment)

Aside from "No Dominion" itself, the following reward is the *third* most compelling:

Name in acknowledgements
Extra short stories
Extra novellas
Opportunity for the limited edition print run of the whole project
Making Kit sing "Wind Beneath My Wings"
Other Swag (cover art posters/bookmarks/postcards/calendars)
Other (pliz comment)

The e-book aspect (as opposed to just PDFs) of the "No Dominion" campaign was this important to me:

Very Important
Moderately Important
Not Important

I learned about the "No Dominion" campaign primarily via:

A CE Murphy blog
CE Murphy's newsletter
Someone Else's Blog
Other (pliz elucidate in comments!)

An individual should run a major Kickstarter campaign no more often than:

Quarterly (ahahaha)
When the mood strikes

A new Kickstarter campaign should be launched:

As soon as excitement overrides sanity
1-3 months after the completion of the last campaign
3-6 months after the completion of the last campaign
6-12 months after the completion of the last campaign

Ticky Boxes

You have totally failed to include ticky boxes in this poll, and I wish to register a complaint.
No complaints, just ticky boxes! Yay!
Deborah Blakedeborahblakehps on February 15th, 2012 03:01 pm (UTC)
I voted for you over at the link you provided--you're way ahead :-) Couldn't find the place to vote for your friend, though--two links were identical.

And I would like the option to "buy" a print edition at a semi-reasonable rate, if I can't afford to buy into the campaign at that level. Just for future reference.
kitmizkit on February 15th, 2012 04:08 pm (UTC)
Oops. The link for the Patronage category is here: http://crowdfunding.livejournal.com/398095.html
(no subject) - deborahblakehps on February 15th, 2012 08:08 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - Amanda Lane on February 18th, 2012 04:42 am (UTC) (Expand)
Lisa Sotolease on February 15th, 2012 03:02 pm (UTC)
Apart from the actual stories that we earned, I participate in the CE Murphy crowdfunding campaigns because I wish to support her crazy antics and plans. :)
The owner of a grey catjennielf on February 15th, 2012 03:30 pm (UTC)
This right here is one of my main reasons. :)
Kerry aka Troublecontrouble on February 15th, 2012 03:03 pm (UTC)
I almost clicked Print Run for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd most compelling reasons to join. It was the reason I joined when it got to that level and not earlier. The other bonuses determined what level I joined.

I don't like ebooks - especially not for anything over 10-12 pages because I spend way too much time reading things from a screen and want to relax AWAY from my screen.
Cynssha on February 16th, 2012 08:18 am (UTC)
This right here!

I, for one, am not a big fan of reading anything of length on a screen. I like paper books. I like the chance to rest my eyes before I go to sleep at night not having to be upright, or have my eyes fixed on a backlit screen. Since I don't have a portable e-reader, this means I don't really enjoy doing e-books. Now, if my printer had a decent ink-life, I'd buy them and just print them out and bind them myself, which I have done with some of my gaming books, and a couple other titles in the past.
irishkate: bouncyirishkate on February 15th, 2012 03:03 pm (UTC)
As a point of being me I selected both ticky boxes.
Dan/Дмитрийicedrake on February 15th, 2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
hegemony hedgehogagrimony on February 15th, 2012 03:09 pm (UTC)
I hit other on why I primarily supported the kick starter and it's because I like you. :)</p>

What brought my dad in was that it was The Walker Papers and the print edition.

mbliss on February 15th, 2012 03:20 pm (UTC)
Kickstarter In General
I would like to add that one of the aspects of Kickstarter that I like the very most is the direct ability to support an artist I like to achieve art I get to have. It's patronage at it's best because I don't have enough monetary power to do that on my own but Kickstarter gives us a way to join together to support an artist for a direct project that we all then get to put our grubby little hands on. That is such a brilliant process and I love participating in it.
ohlibnohlibn on February 15th, 2012 04:58 pm (UTC)
Re: Kickstarter In General
Yes! This.
Re: Kickstarter In General - veilofgrace on February 16th, 2012 02:53 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Kickstarter In General - ssha on February 16th, 2012 08:19 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Kickstarter In General - Amanda Lane on February 18th, 2012 04:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
Jenicaverrakaien on February 15th, 2012 03:20 pm (UTC)
I signed on immediately because I think crowdsourcing is cool. I upped my pledge when you revealed that we were about to pay you more than you'd ever been paid upfront by a traditional publisher, because, well, that's EFFING AWESOME.

I am seriously in love with the idea of a reinvented patronage system where the audience truly does fund the artist. I want to do that.
Brianlogrusboy on February 15th, 2012 03:22 pm (UTC)
(I went ahead and voted since my participation failed due to a goof, and I had fully intended to buy in. Don't think this should invalidate your results.)

My primary reason was affection for the author. Money is really tight for me, and I probably would have passed on any other author's campaign no matter how nifty.
pgwfolcpgwfolc on February 15th, 2012 04:05 pm (UTC)
Additional info/answers, as promised:

I bought into "No Dominion" primarily because: I love your writing, even if Walker Papers isn't my favorite of your series. I still greatly enjoy it, but it wouldn't be my personal first choice.

I bought into the "No Dominion" campaign *secondarily* because: You were so excited about it.

(Perhaps worth noting is that this was your first Kickstarter campaign. You were extra excited about it, and I expect the rest of us were, too.)

How much does the Kickstarter aspect of being able to see others' enthusiasm affect your willingness to buy into a campaign?

Enthusiasm can be infectious, but I don't really know many other fans. It doesn't matter to me if I don't, but it can be a positive motivator if I do.

As for rewards: More of your writing is the main reward for me. Seeing you happy and excited is the next. Calendars and posters and such don't mean much to me.

As for the last two questions, my answers sort of conflict. I said annually but as soon as excitement overrides sanity. Don't go to the well too often, but don't let arbitrary timescales hold you back when the fires are burning.
Mary Annepers1stence on February 15th, 2012 04:31 pm (UTC)
I initially bought in at the level I did because I like supporting your work, and that level was around what I felt spending on "book" for me. The bulk of my additional buy-in was a result of the enthusiasm of your other supporters.
Bryantbryant on February 15th, 2012 04:49 pm (UTC)
I kicked in because I know and like your work. :)
Ellen Millionellenmillion on February 15th, 2012 05:20 pm (UTC)
I said Kickstarter didn't make a difference, but the more accurate truth is that I'm not all that keen on Kickstarter. It doesn't make me run screaming, but I'd rather send you those funds more directly. It's lovely that Kickstarter gives you more publicity and makes it easy to manage things, but it's also an arm of Giant Monopoly Amazon, which takes a good chunk of the bottom line and almost negates the whole 'buy it from the creator' and 'support the little guy' aspect. It's like going to Walmart to buy local produce.
Mark MathisonMark Mathison on February 15th, 2012 05:33 pm (UTC)
follow up to my "other" answer
The opportunity to be a small part in the process that results in your amazing efforts taking up a home in my heart and my head.
Edwards ElEdwards El on February 15th, 2012 05:35 pm (UTC)
kickstart campaign
Why did I participate....because I like reading what C.E. Murphy writes...that was the motivation for my small donation. Finances allowing I would do it again.
Nathaliespacedlaw on February 15th, 2012 05:51 pm (UTC)
Rather than a problem of periodicity, I would not think starting a new kickstarter before all goals for which the previous one has been run for are be fulfilled is advisable. If you are able to write all the things you committed to in 3 months, by all means, start a new campaign.

silver shadow believersaintswife on February 16th, 2012 12:14 am (UTC)
I have to agree with this.

I bought in on a kickstarter about a month ago, and the author has already started another Kickstarter without completing the first one. Since they haven't finished what was initially promised, I'm honestly not inspired to pledge to a second one.
Alix (Tersa): Arwen Reading (tersa)tersa on February 15th, 2012 06:06 pm (UTC)
I bought into "No Dominion" primarily because:

I'm with agrimony on this: it was you. :)

Edited at 2012-02-15 06:06 pm (UTC)
Kari Sperringla_marquise_de_ on February 15th, 2012 06:12 pm (UTC)
I answered 'other' to all the reward questions, because what matters most to me is that writers get to earn a living. And that, as far as I'm concerned, is that -- I get to read the original project, and you get paid at a fair rate: I don't feel the need for anything further for me.
Lyn MercerLyn Mercer on February 15th, 2012 06:26 pm (UTC)
Because you asked...
I bought in as soon as I saw it on your blog because I love your work. I worked at a book store a few years ago and would put your books in the "our recommendations" display all the time.

The "extra swagg" didn't have any bearing on my buy in. The extra stories (along with my bank statement) are what determined the amount for me. Then I had a little unexpected windfall so I was able to up my contribution. I like the idea of directly supporting the authors I enjoy. It's a pleasure (and satisfying) to know that in some small way I've contributed to the writing I so enjoy reading.

I said semiannually but really I think once all your obligations are met for whatever the most recent campaign are, run another one! I don't mind giving something up for a few weeks to have the money to support something you do. (who needs diet coke anyway?)

I too like having the option of a print edition at a reasonable rate. I have a "keeper" shelf for the books I dearly love and read repeatedly. Those are the ones I share with anyone I'm sure will give it back when they are done. The Walker Papers are on that shelf. So having all the short stories/novellas there in book form would be really nice!
Amanda LaneAmanda Lane on February 18th, 2012 04:51 am (UTC)
Fully agree! With the exception of the shelf thing. I will recommend the HE#$ out of an author or book that I love, or even buy it myself for close friends and family, but my books are my babies, and they SO don't get loaned out. Partially because I am so particular about how the book its self gets treated; no curling of the cover and the pages, no folding down the pages... I know, it's anal, but some of my very favorite books I've had for 15 years, and the only reason I might need to replace a couple of them are from incessant rereading that's practically an annual event! :)

Edited at 2012-02-18 04:51 am (UTC)
Dinidamedini on February 15th, 2012 06:50 pm (UTC)
I wasn't in a position to buy into this one, but a stranger was very kind and bought me in. In return, once I am able, I will buy a stranger in (job-getting juju please). A future print edition option would make me happy, and the more stories/novellas the better. I am not at all motivated by swag and prefer words. The song and dance number though... ;^D
Scott Preston DrummondScott Preston Drummond on February 15th, 2012 07:24 pm (UTC)
I really like following characters as they grow through time...so having new material that wouldn't get written via the traditional publishing industry is golden.


Geek of Weird Shit: weldinggows on February 15th, 2012 07:45 pm (UTC)
Explication of my answers:

Primary reason for buying in: because you are my friend, you are following your bliss, and I wish to support you in that endeavor.

Rewards: Watching the money level up made me want to increase my bid, which I suppose would be a tie on the third-most stimulating reward. Short story vs novella isn't that big a difference to me, but the idea of "extra story!" is a good motivator. The bookmark was eh, cover shot was nicer, but also eh, but I LOVED the idea of a community-created Walker Papers calendar. It's more practical/functional, and I get to have it out all year to squee at inside.

Don't get me wrong: a video of you singing "Wind Beneath My Wings" was also a very strong motivator, once it got close enough to become an eventual crowd reward, to make sure we hit the $20k mark.

I also think spacing out KS/crowdfunded projects allows the participants to get really jazzed up along with you--too much OMG YAY SQUEE is just exhausting after a while. I've another friend who does a LOT of fundraising via LJ, both personal and charity, and it does get a bit annoying.
gryphon3e: Hi honey I am homegryphon3e on February 15th, 2012 08:40 pm (UTC)
Hey it is for you anyway

As my mistress instructs so shall it be.
One mindless slave voting as instructed.

The whole point of this exercise was to;
1/ give you back a little for the Walker papers, check
2/ To show you how much you mean as a person, and not an invisible writer, check

Then the fringe benefits out way the worthiness

It is funny, you so make me laugh, the window into your soul you have given us is worth every penny pledged

Making you sing is just so perfectly mean...
Voted it 1st 2nd and 3rd most important

Because I care....;-)

Edited at 2012-02-15 08:41 pm (UTC)
Jennifer ErwinJennifer Erwin on February 15th, 2012 09:09 pm (UTC)
Catie, I participate in Kickstarter campaigns (or other crowdfunded campaigns) for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it is because I am interested in the product, sometimes I just want to support the project, sometimes, as with No Dominion, it is because I have prior knowledge or exposure. In this case I supported you because:
-Prior knowledge. I have read and enjoyed most of your published works. It is not a project I would likely have stumbled upon.
-I have supported other crowdfunded projects from you.
-I really want Gary's story. :)
-You were so excited about it, and your communication has been awesome! I have bought into other crowdfunding projects because I thought the project was a fantastic idea and I wanted to see it come to fruition, but the communication was lousy and made me not want to participate. That has not been the case here, and I must say that I might have bought in for just the updates because they have been so fun!

Thank you!!
Catherinesharpwords on February 15th, 2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
I bought into "No Dominion" primarily because:
- I'm aiming for a complete set of works by C E Murphy...
deliiriadeliiria on February 15th, 2012 09:58 pm (UTC)
why’d I buy in to the kickstarter campaign? well... my thought process went something like this:

oooo! C.E. Murphy? I like everything she’s written. I’m totally going to buy into that project. and ooooo! a Walker Papers story told from the POV of Gary? BONUS!

as for the ebook versions vs the pdf... well, having a pre-made ebook will save me having to convert the pdf to a .mobi file, which is kind of nice. however, it is not that important as I use Calibre to manage the metadata of my books anyways, and it takes only a minute or so to convert a file myself :)
Brienzebrienze on February 15th, 2012 11:00 pm (UTC)
I'm not actually sure that I did buy into your No Dominion kickstarter... kickstarter says that I didn't, at any rate, but I received the recent email asking if it was okay to post a story publicly as part of your award nomination.

For the "how I heard about it" question... I was following the magick4terri auction closely and saw the link to your blog, and then bought the Old Races stories and EASY PICKINGS to give to my DH for Christmas on an awesome ninja-shaped USB. So for any future projects I'll hear about it here, but I got here because your name was out there for your donation to Terri. :)